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But before jumping to the signalling suggestion, why not simply observe that goverment-enforced compulsory speech on certain subjects has a rather poor track record?

I wonder how Robin would explain his apparent fondness for "inside view" explanations involving signaling and social interactions, when they conflict with commonly-held "outside view" beliefs such as the above. Perhaps something along these lines?

Excess inside viewing usually continues even after folks are warned that outside viewing works better; after all, inside viewing better show offs inside knowledge and abilities.

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You make a good case, Robin, given an idealized court. However, when it comes to practice, I don't feel good about a trial where no one involved was directly harmed. The court will end up meting out more punishment than is just, for two reasons.

The first is that the victim is not there to call the trial off. In practice, many times when someone has legal standing to sue someone else, they don't bother. They might feel that they have gotten restitution through an outside channel. Or, they might think that the whole matter is a technicality. There is no such check when a government agent is doing the prosecuting. The agent doesn't have to stop, and indeed might feel compelled to press on as part of their job description.

The second problem is that such courts use far-mode judgments. If a specific harmed person were there, the members of the court could make judgments about that specific person's harms. Without such a person present, they have to weigh the harms done to an amorphous set of the general public.

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