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Overcoming Bias Commenter's avatar

Striking study. It has a ring of Koestler to it re: the destructiveness of group allegiance.

I could see how social ostracism can lead to suboptimal results (herd behavior) regardless of any motivation issues (prize) simply because the individuals' own judgments are suppressed in favor of a common judgment. And that goes against the whole Polanyi / Hayek idea of the distribution of information in society, especially the concept that the sum of distributed local knowledge is greater than the collected centralized knowledge and its plans.

It appears that in this study the groups that could not punish did much better than the groups that could, and in the absolute they did better than the individuals too ( though not relative to the equilibrium). That is a powerful argument for the wisdom of the crowds and against forced collective organization.

In addition: I fail to see why the feeling of empathy should have much to do with the makeup or organization of a society to begin with. Empathy is a personal feeling, usually linked to personal proximity, and display of emotion. We empathize with our friends for instance, even when they are objectively in the wrong in some societal situation. So empathy can not serve as basis for a general rule in society - people inevitably empathize with different target individuals or groups.

Be the mechanism for this mirror neurons or something else, empathy is personal and usually local in time and space. In large and complex societies it is hard to see how empathy alone could conceivably generate a form of complex organization even if the target issue didn't exist. True, empathy fuels charity work, but that is a very small subset of social organization. I also don't see at all why top down coordination mandated by collectively decided global empathetic goals should yield higher utility outcomes than piecemeal individual (market) coordination. In fact this is precisely a problem for charities as well - they are often not efficient.

Empathy as driver of economic exchange is a deeply flawed concept and the polar opposite of Adam Smith, for a lot of reasons that have been studied extensively since.

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Robin Hanson's avatar

Economists have well developed tools for concluding that a number is too high or too low, without ever needing to say what exactly the value of the number is. For example, we expect there to be too much pollution when polluters don't have to pay for the harm they impose on distant others. We can know this without knowing just how much pollution there is. My point was that you'd need some sort of argument like that to conclude that we show too little empathy for each other in the US.

I'm happy to grant that empathy is ancient, and common today, and most economists admit this as well. Incentives remain relevant, however, even when empathy exists.

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