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The individual vs society

1. How is this division a key division, underlying many others?

Your choice of sides has a large philosophical impact on your perceived optimal solution for all kinds of social problems.

2. How do people acquire their sides in this conflict?

Indoctrination by their environment, probably a lot of rationalization of their own actions.

3. How has this conflict lasted so long, without one side winning?

Because the actual optimum is neither of the two extremes and keeps shifting throughout history, so whenever one side is about to win, the other gains more adherents.

4. How could one side finally win such an old conflict?

Probably not at all. Some radical technological shift pushing the optimum of social organization at that extreme.

5. Why is one side better than the other in an absolute sense?

As the optimum shifts on the axis and the forces of society pull the actual organization between, one side is always pulling in the right direction. Alas, it is hard to find out which.

6. Why can’t those folks be persuaded that their side is bad?

Because both sides have constructed elaborate rationalizations of their positions and have a large dedicated propaganda setup that makes answering the hard question from #5 seem like way too much effort compared to some righteous indignation at the other sides' infamy.

7. Why can’t peaceful compromise replace conflict?

It does a lot of the time, and that's the point of a lot of our social superstructure.

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That's too complicated :)

Remember Koom Valley!

Every society needs a cry like that, but only in a very few do they come out with the complete, unvarnished version, which is “Remember-the-Atrocity-Committed-Against-Us-Last-Time-That-Will-Excuse-The-Atrocity-That-We’re-About-To-Commit-Today!”—Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time

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