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Teamsters president Jimmy Hoffa Junior recently said,

"And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. ...They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. We’re going to win that war... Let’s take these sons of bitches out ..."

There are lots of Republicans running around now saying what an awful threat this is. It is certainly "uncivil" but it is no more a threat of actual physical violence than Rick Perry's speech was.

Now, if it was Jimmy Hoffa Senior, I'd be worried that somebody was going to get whacked :)

Do you think Hoffa's threat is more, less, or just as worrisome as Perry's?

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Yes, I do. Perry meant what he said to be intimidating. Maybe Perry didn't plan to personally carry out ugly threats, but he wouldn't have to. Unfortunately there are people who will use their “second amendment remedies” against politicians and political appointees they disagree with when encouraged to do so by people they consider to be their “leaders”. Unfortunately those individuals tend to be non-liberals and it is liberals that get targeted.

When asked, the Perry campaign didn't say that the statement was not an implied threat.

http://www.washingtonpost.c...

To those of us paying attention, there are a lot of threatening metaphors being thrown out there by politicians. “Don’t retreat. RELOAD”, “Second amendment remedies”, and they really do seem to be coming from one side. What exactly is threatening and intimidating speech supposed to convey? Something other than threats and intimidation?

There is a big issue now with death threats in science. Climate researchers receive death threats from AGW denialists, CFS researchers and virologists who found XMRV to be a contaminant receive death threats, anti-vaxers target vaccine researchers with death threats.

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