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@gthe plot above is from 2000. That explains a lot

Otherwise: Good point. We have to say this a little more carefully.I use loosely "affluent" for the upper end of the "thermal distribution" lets say upper 10 % minus upper 1 - 2 % and "rich" for the power law, upper 1 %.

For Allen, I read on wiki: father associate director of library, which I put at the lower end of affluent. Jobs was definitely not even affluent (I assume you know his step parent story from his 2005 Stanford speech?).Ballmer grew up "in an affluent community", ...., but that means most likely that his parents where rich by our definitions, I agree now.Ellison "grew up in 2-bed room apartment" what I would not even call "affluent", outside of NYC :-)For the Waltons I took the Father Sam, who basically made most of this and started poor.Gates father was a lawyer, something I associated here not with "rich", but a rich one in deed, I checked.In this way I arrived at a picture of about 2/3 "not rich".

I wanted to stretch that in most cases it is a one generation fast rise to the top, and your point that it is much easier, when the jumping off point is close to the "rich" area, is well taken.

I started with a 3-4 bedroom senior director father (3 kids, public officer, safe, but no financial assets, I would call that not even "affluent"), sold my first software during school, but it would have been unthinkable to break off studying and founding a Software company (and where to get the seed money?, like minded co founders?).

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genauer, let's take a look at the people at the top of that list, in order. Gates: rich family. Buffett: rich family. Allen (I'm assuming this is Paul Allen, though it's news to me if he's really #3 in the world): prosperous but not rich family. Waltons: very rich family (though one generation back is a different story). Ellison: middle-class family. Dell: rich family. Ballmer: rich family. Anthony (I think this is Barbara Cox Anthony, who is now dead): very rich family. Chambers (I think this is Anne Cox Chambers): very rich family, the same one as Anthony. Kluge (presumably John Kluge): poor family, so far as I can tell.

So, of the 14 people called out by name at the top of that chart, we have: half of them (five Waltons, two Coxes) inherited their wealth from their super-rich parents; four more (Gates, Buffett, Dell, Ballmer) were from rich families (surely top 2%); then we have one wealthy-ish (Allen), one middle class (Dell), one poor (Kluge).

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't describe that by saying that "most folks at the top came from often poor to just affluent background". Most folks at the top come from families that are (at least) very comfortably off. It's easier to take big risks -- starting a company, investing a lot in a high-risk high-return venture, etc. -- if you have a good safety net.

In any case, I don't think Robin's equation is at all intended to be a perfectly accurate universal model of how people's wealth evolves. There's a reason why both Robin and the paper he quoted it from call it a "simple model".

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