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davidmanheim's avatar

Very interesting framing of classes of arguments. There is another dynamic I think might be worth identifying in this context, which is when a less-informed arguer attempts to present an argument to find why experts disagree, or where they are wrong.

It's especially important when it allows the people below that 80% threshold to get closer - a mechanism that internet conversations was once thought of facilitating. It turns out that the more common dynamic is... less inspiring.

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Richard Neumann's avatar

Isn't the problem that when you are more capable than your audience they usually parrot an "expert" opinion? If you try to convince them of otherwise it becomes too complex for them and they just rethrow the opinion at you again feeling they are right because you failed to convince them. This is one of the reasons whole institutions and norms in society can exist even though they are severely flawed.

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