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Teddy's avatar

The degree of moral reprehensibility surrounding Nazism, kidnappers, slaveowners, etc. (rightly so - don't hurt me) is a thought exercise much like a discussion espousing levels of greatness, e.g. discussing who is "the best" in a related field, be it sports, academia, politics, etc.

Discussing who is worst is different only in it's oppositive nature, not in it's lack of merit as a topic (well, it may have a relative lack of merit, but nonetheless). It's just as worthy in my mind as both are mental exercises.

Now, functionally, it does very little to just talk about gradations unless we do actually come up with words, like the TJ-like slaveowner being a "dick" versus "complete dick" versus "actual bagodix".

Sports and particularly baseball may have the longest tradition of gradation among it's participants so why not: "first ballot hall of shame slave owner", "hall of shame slaveowner", "five-time-all-asshole-slaveowner but never made the hall of shame", (TJ somewhere in this level), "cup of coffee slave owner", "career minor league slave owner" etc. etc.

Mainly glad I wasn't a slave and didn't have to decide at the time whether my enslavement was "effing horrible", or just "horrible".

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Peter Gerdes's avatar

The short answer is most certainly yes. If I found out a family member was enslaved by force I'd assume the absolute worst about the situation and their level of suffering. On the other hand finding out that they choose the situation over some other alternative causes me to believe they probably judged the enslavement to be less bad and thus I would think that you've hurt them less. But I do think that asking about people's family is a bit misleading because the emotional closeness there often reverses our moral judgements, e.g., generally we believe it is morally righteous to refuse to steal needed medication in some kind of triage situation but with our family members we tend to flip that and throw moral consideration out the window in favor of emotion that clouds our judgement.

I mean far from making our moral answers more clear when you pose hypotheticals about people's family being hurt you cause people to abandon their best moral responses (e.g. advocates of human prisons demanding blood when someone hurts their family members).

To give the fuller answer: depends what X is and how it is imposed. If you go figure out what X she will dislikes most and deliberately arrange for that to occur then maybe not (i.e. if she is crazy scared of dogs then specifically engineering that to be the alternative is particularly diabolical). If X is some bad state of affairs that many people unfortunately face as a matter of course that is viewed as unfortunate but not horrific by contemporary standards, e.g., having to work for your keep in a strange city, and you didn't deliberately arrange for that to be something my daughter is particularly averse to than yes it is less bad.

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